A podcast about design from your friends Joe Alterio & Brian Fling. In each episode, we candidly discuss life as a designer and the challenges of being creative in an increasingly technical world.

How to Talk About Race & Design with Bekah Marcum How to Talk About Race & Design with Bekah Marcum
Feb 24, 2020

How to Talk About Race & Design with Bekah Marcum

The incredible Bekah Marcum of Black Designers of Seattle joins us on the show to talk about her experiences being the only black designer working on design teams. And how we can be better "co-conspirators" in talking about race in the workplace.

Design for Good Design for Good
Feb 06, 2020

Design for Good

This week Mollie Ruskin & Sarah Fathallah the founders of the fantastic Design Gigs for Good join us to talk about how designers can "use the tools of design to create positive social change." We discuss how can we get more involved in communities and causes that are working on social impact? What is the right mindset for designers looking to get more involved in change-based organizations? What are some of the tools and methods designers can use to create positive social change?

Give it a listen, then immediately join the Design Gigs for Good Slack group, connect with the community and start using design to make an impact.

How Do You Get Started? How Do You Get Started?
Jan 21, 2020

How Do You Get Started?

Every new design project starts with a blank page. How do you get started? Do you wait for inspiration to strike? ground yourself in research? just keep creating until something works? Your friends Joe & Brian could have more different approaches to this problem. In this episode they share some of their thoughts and methods to getting started, where ideas come from, how to access individual creativity and bring them forward and to finally them on the page.

Data vs. Intuition Data vs. Intuition
Jan 08, 2020

Data vs. Intuition

What is a better tool for your designs, collecting data or following your intuition? This is the question that Joe & Brian ask this episode. They discuss different user research methods, including qualitative and quantitative data gathering, the pros and cons of data-driven design, usability-driven design. And the value of just simply following your gut and leading design with your intuition.

Everything is on Fire: A Guide to Product Management Everything is on Fire: A Guide to Product Management
Dec 18, 2019

Everything is on Fire: A Guide to Product Management

Clear the backlog. This week product expert Chez Gledhill joins Joe and Brian to talk about how product managers impact designers, and vice versa. We ask are product managers and designers friends ...or foes? What are some of the common challenges in the designer/product relationship? We'll make a Gantt chart and figure it out!

Defending Your Design Defending Your Design
Dec 09, 2019

Defending Your Design

You've perfected your designs and now it's time to present, but then it all goes to sh*t. It happens to all of us. In this episode Brian and Joe share some tips and techniques for getting through your design reviews with your soul intact.

Mistakes Mistakes
Dec 02, 2019


Misstakes, er... mistakes. In design sometimes mistakes lead to our best work – or as Bob Ross would say "happy little accidents" – while others are just epic fails. In this episode Joe and Brian share their favorite mistakes in design, business, and life.

A Designer&Designer Thanksgiving A Designer&Designer Thanksgiving
Nov 25, 2019

A Designer&Designer Thanksgiving

In this episode Brian makes a case for why Thanksgiving is really a designers holiday while Joe does the dishes. Thank you so much for listening to the show and Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

How Deep Does Design Go? How Deep Does Design Go?
Nov 18, 2019

How Deep Does Design Go?

Brian & Joe welcome the infamous Jay Fienberg into the studio to ask, what makes something "design?" or How Deep Does Design Go? In this episode we discuss what separates design from art, the importance of craft and improvisation in design ...and dentistry.

What is Good Design? What is Good Design?
Nov 11, 2019

What is Good Design?

What is good design? If something is "ugly" but solves a problem, is that good design? How much of good design is just designer intuition or craft?

In this episode Joe and Brian will discuss Art versus Design, the Bauhaus movement, striking a good balance of form versus function. And provide some pro-tips, like how to measure good design, the importance of getting out of the studio to find inspiration, and more tactics to help designers know good design when they see it.

Imposter Syndrome Imposter Syndrome
Nov 04, 2019

Imposter Syndrome

In this episode Joe & Brian try to unpack why designers commonly suffer from Imposter Syndrome – "a pervasive feeling of self-doubt, insecurity, or fraudulence despite often overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

What is it? Why is it common among creatives? And what can we do to help our fellow designers who may be feeling like imposters?

What is IA, UX, and UI? What is IA, UX, and UI?
Oct 16, 2019

What is IA, UX, and UI?

In this episode Joe & Brian dive deep into the world of design jargon, explaining what terms like IA, UX or UI mean, where they come from, how are they different and in the end do they really matter?

The Design Interview The Design Interview
Oct 16, 2019

The Design Interview

Designers Brian & Joe talk about the dreaded design interview – a required step for designers to just get in the door. They dive into what is it, what to look for in designers, why most companies get it wrong (possibly even pointing to bigger issues internally) and why should never do free work to get a gig.

Along the way they explain into two big fundamental principles of design, and how designers and non-designers can better talk to one another.

Make the Web Weird Again Make the Web Weird Again
Oct 16, 2019

Make the Web Weird Again

In this episode Joe & Brian plea to Make the Web Weird Again. Jumping into the wayback machine, the web once felt like a massive canvas for creativity that allowed designers the freedom for expression and that led to lots of cool weird things.

These days, the web maybe feels a little bit less weird and that makes us sad. Are today's designers stuck within the rails of social platforms like Dribbble and Instagram? Or did Joe & Brian just get old? We'll discuss.

Failure Failure
Oct 16, 2019


In this episode Joe & Brian discuss Failure – an all too common emotion felt by all designers.

We talk about why designers are so emotionally tied to their work, how hard it can feel when you are rejected or your work doesn't resonate. Why we don't often give enough credit for our successes. And we discuss both the positives and the negatives of failure. Plus some strategies for dealing with failure when it inevitably happens.

Design Thinking Design Thinking
Aug 30, 2019

Design Thinking

Our very first episode! Meet designer Joe Alterio and designer Brian Fling, hear about their backgrounds as designers and how they became friends.

Why do a podcast about design now? For the main episode topic, they dive into their differing views on Design Thinking. What is it? Does it work? Does it actually benefit designers, or is it a system of control for creative thought?